Kristu alias Krisna

                                                                        

(By K.N.Subramanyam)

                  

          
                                                            

"The Sanskrit word avatara literally means "he who descends." One who descends from the spiritual universe into the material universe through his own will is called an avatara. Sometimes Sri Krsna descends Himself, and sometimes He sends His representative. The major religions of the world--Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, and Moslem -- believe in some supreme authority or personality coming down from the kingdom of God. In the Christian religion, Jesus Christ claimed to be the son of God and to be coming from the kingdom of God to reclaim conditioned souls. "Lord Jesus Christ, for instance, was God Conscious, Krishna Conscious but he was not satisfied in keeping his knowledge within himself.

"Lord Jesus Christ, he is  God's son. 

"Jesus Christ was such a great personality-the son of God, the representative of God. He had no fault. Still, he was crucified. He wanted to deliver God consciousness.

Of course, the message that Christ preached was just according to his particular time, place, and country, and just suited for a particular group of people. But certainly he is the representative of God. 

Actually, anyone who is preaching God's glories must be accepted as a guru. Jesus Christ is one such great personality. We should not think of him as an ordinary human being. The scriptures say that anyone who considers the spiritual master to be an ordinary man has a hellish mentality. If Jesus Christ were an ordinary man, then he could not have delivered God consciousness. 

Ancient scrolls reveal that Jesus spent seventeen years in the Orient. From age thirteen to age twenty-nine, he was both student and teacher.

The story of his pilgrimage from Jerusalem to Benares was recorded by Brahmanistic historians.

Today they still know him and love him as St. Issa. Their 'buddha'.

Issa (also spelled Isa) is Sanskrit for "God," and in Sanskirt it is explained that Krishna is the one Supreme God, the cause of all causes and all that is. Some also claim it could be "Isavara" or the "Supreme Controller." I'm not a Sanskrit scholar so I can't say, one way or the other. Anyhow, Christ always had the humble servant mentality, thus Issa-messiah or Issa das  servant of the Supreme Being/God or Krishna.

Sixty three-references to the life of St. Issa are said to be locked up in the Vatican library.

Who knows about the lost manuscripts and why aren't they telling?

Who lifted from the gospels the missing part about the teenager who trekked to the Himalayas and became the Savior of the world?

"... Lord Jesus was in India during what are known as the lost years of Jesus. The Bible records Jesus age twelve in the temple. Then age thirty at the river Jordan. That leaves eighteen years unaccounted for.

But in India? It was hard to imagine the carpenter-of-Nazareth Jesus bathing in the Ganges, for instance.

Sitting in the lotus posture.  pictured a country where over six hundred million people are still struggling to enter the twentieth century. 

"Lhasa." The monk describes inhospitable territory that is traversed by a solitary road leading to a Tibetan monastery. Here, he says, there are records originally written in the Pali language-"ancient scrolls," he explains, curling his blunt fingers as if to open the rigid parchment before my eyes.

"Near Srinigar in the Happy Valley of Kashmir we find the legend of an extraordinary saint known to the Buddhists as St. Issa," says the monk.  Events in the life of Issa closely resemble that of Jesus Christ, revealing what are thought to be the lost years of our Lord." "That which belongs to God belongs also to man," According to the legend, Issa left his father's house secretly at age thirteen. He joined a merchant caravan and arrived in India "this side of the Sind" sometime during his fourteenth year.

Young Issa, the Blessed One, traveled south to Gujarat, through the country of the five streams and Rajputana, then on to the holy cities of Jagannath and Benares where Brahman priests taught him Vedic scripture.

Issa continued north into the Himalayas and settled in the country of the Gautamides, followers of the Buddha Gautama, where for six years he applied himself to the study of the sacred sutras. He left India in his twenty-sixth year, traveling to Persepolis, to Athens, to Alexandria.

Issa was twenty-nine when he returned to Israel--and reentered the familiar gospel of St. Luke, chapter three. His baptism by John in the river Jordan. Vatican library contains sixty-three manuscripts in various Oriental languages which refer to the Issa legend-documents brought to Rome by Christian missionaries from India, China, Egypt, and Arabia. He even suggests that one of the missioners may have been the apostle Thomas-yes, "doubting Thomas," the empiricist.

That is possible. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, St. Thomas evangelized India and the territory between the Persian Gulf and the  Caspian Sea.Speaking of Issa,. He passed his time in several ancient cities of India such as Benares. All loved him because Issa dwelt in peace with Vaishas and Shudras whom he instructed and helped. But the Brahmins and Kshatriyas told him that Brahma forbade those to approach who were created out of his womb and feet. The Vaishas were allowed to listen to the Vedas only on holidays and the Shudras were forbidden not only to be present at the reading of the Vedas, but could not even look at them. 1) brahmana as the priestly or first class persons, 2) Kshatriya's or warriors as second class, 3) Vaishya's or farmers and mercantile workers (including businessmen), and lastly 4) Shurdra's or the laborers. While it can be noticed that even if such names are removed, these different natured persons exist in all societies, the kali yuga caste system is about rubber stamp everyone according to birth and not giving credit according to qualification. Thus, no one was allowed to learn how to elevate themselves.Now, Jesus was not against all brahmana's, only those under the bodily concept of life. For that matter, Jesus himself studied under (qualified) brahmanas Jesus left the misguided admirers of Djaine and visited Juggernaut, in the province of Orsis, where the remains of Vyasa-Krishna rest, and where he received a joyous welcome from the white priests of Brahma. They taught him to read and understand the Vedas, to heal by prayer, to teach and explain the Holy Scripture, to cast out evil spirits from the body of man and give him back human semblance. Jesus accepted the name "Issa" or "Issa das," which translates as "servant of the One Supreme God or Lord Krishna."] Issa said that man had filled the temples with his abominations. In order to pay homage to metals and stones, man sacrificed his fellows in whom dwells a spark of the Supreme Spirit. Man demeans those who labor by the sweat of their brows, in order to gain the good will of the sluggard who sits at the lavishly set board. But they who deprive their brothers of the common blessing shall be themselves stripped of it. Jesus was not against Deity worship. What is being criticized here are the hypocrites. if we do not follow the regulative principles and take nice care of the Deity, and if we see the Deity as stone, then eventually the God will leave. If those in the temples where Jesus visited were only putting on a show of religiosity but within only viewed the Deity as metal or stone, then Jesus saw through this. And if they did not respect, what to speak of honor, the other devotees of Krishna merely because they were laborers, etc., then they were not religious but committing an offense called vaisnava aparadha.] Vaishas and Shudras were struck with astonishment and asked what they could perform. Issa bade them "Worship not the idols. Do not consider yourself first. Do not humiliate your neighbor. Help the poor. Sustain the feeble. Do evil to no one. Do not covet that which you do not possess and which is possessed by others." Afterward, Issa went into Nepal and into the Himalayan mountains .... Finally Jesus reached a mountain pass and in the chief city of Ladak, Leh, he was joyously accepted by monks and people of the lower class .... And Jesus taught in the monasteries and in the bazaars (the market places); wherever the simple people gathered--there he taught.

Not far from this place lived a woman whose son had died and she brought him to Jesus. And in the presence of a multitude, Jesus laid his hand on the child, and the child rose healed. And many brought their children and Jesus laid his hands upon them, healing them.

Among the Ladakis, Jesus passed many days, teaching them. And they loved him and when the time of his departure came they sorrowed as children.

Isaiah 66:3 “He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man.

Shows that cow killing is equated with murder.

Gen 1:29 “And God said, behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."

Thus, Gods true diet for human being is vegetarian. What is the meaning of the word, “Christ?” .Christ comes from the Greek word Christos, meaning "the anointed one." Christos is the Greek version of the word Krishna.When an Indian person calls on Krishna, he often says, "Krsta". Krsta is a Sanskrit word meaning "attraction". So when we address God as "Christ", "Krsta", or "Krishna" we indicate the same all-attractive Supreme Personality of Godhead. When Jesus said, " Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be Thy name," the name of God was Krsta or Krishna. Jesus, as the son of God, has revealed to us the actual name of God: Christ. We can call God "Father", but if we want to address Him by His actual name, we have to say "Christ". "Christ" is another way of saying Krsta and Krsta is another way of pronouncing Krishna, the name of God. Jesus said that one should glorify the name of God, but God has no name -- that we can call Him only "Father". A son may call his father "Father", but the father also has a specific name. Similarly, God is the general name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, whose specific name is Krishna. Therefore whether you call God "Christ", "Krsta", or "Krishna", ultimately you are addressing the same Supreme Personality of Godhead. Krishna or Christ -- the name is the same. The main point is to follow the injunctions of the Vedic scriptures that recommend chanting the name of God in this age. Krishna is Parabrahman. Brahman is realised in three aspects: as impersonal Brahman, as localised Paramatma and as personal Brahman. Krishna is personal and He is the Supreme Brahman, for God is ultimately a person. 

"Learned transcendentalists, who know the Absolute Truth, call this nondual substance Brahman, Paramatma or Bhagavan." The feature of the Supreme Personality is the ultimate realisation of God. He has all six opulences in full: He is the strongest, the richest, the most beautiful, the most famous, the wisest and the most renounced.Because God is absolute, His name, His form and His qualities are all absolute and they are nondifferent from Him. Therefore to chant God's holy name means to associate directly with Him. When one associates with God one acquires Godly qualities and when one is completely purified he becomes an associate of the Supreme Lord. we are limited, but God is unlimited. And because He is unlimited, or absolute, he has unlimited names, each if which is God. We can understand His names as much as our spiritual understanding is developed. Christians also preach love of God, and  try to realise love of God and render service to Him with all our heart and all our soul. Now, what is the difference between Krishna consciousness  and Christianity  is that  Christians do not follow the commandments of God.to a large extent If you do not follow the orders of God, then where is your love? what it means to love God. If you love Him you cannot be disobedient to His orders. And if you are disobedient your love is not real. All over the world people don't love God. They love their dogs. Can it be said in what way the Christians are disobedient? The first point is they violate the commandment "Thou shall not kill" by maintaining slaughterhouses. it can be agreed that this commandment is being violated? So if the Christians want to love God, they must stop killing animals. A hen lays eggs with it's back part and eats with it's beak. A farmer may consider, "The front part of the hen is very expensive because I have to feed it. Better to cut it off." But if the head is missing there will be no eggs any more because the body is dead. Similarly, if we reject the difficult part of the scriptures and obey the part we like, such an interpretation will not help us. We have to accept all the injunctions of the scriptures as they are given , not just those that suit us. If you do not follow the first order, "Thou shall not kill," then where is the question of love of God? Christians take this commandment to be applicable to human beings, not to animals. That would mean Christ was not intelligent enough to use the right word: murder. There is killing, and there is murder, Murder refers to human beings. Do you think Jesus was not intelligent enough to use the right word. Killing means any kind of killing and especially animal killing. If Jesus had meant simply the killing of humans he would have used the word murder. Isn't the eating of plants also killing? The Vaisnava philosophy teaches that we should not even kill plants unnecessarily. In the Bhagavad-gita  Krishna says:"If someone offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, a fruit or a little water, I will accept it." We offer Krishna only the kind of food He demands, and then we eat the remnants. If offering vegetarian food to Krishna were sinful, then it would be Krishna's sin, not ours. But God is apapa-vijna -- sinful reactions are not applicable to Him. He is like the sun, which is so powerful that it can purify even urine -- something impossible for us to do. Krishna is also like a king, who may order a murderer to be hanged, but who himself is not subject to punishment because he is very powerful. Eating food first offered to the Lord is also something like a soldier's killing during wartime. In a war, when the commander orders a man to attack, the obedient soldier who kills the enemy will get a medal. But if the same soldier kills someone on his own he will be punished. Similarly when we eat only prasada [the remnants of food offered to Krishna], we do not commit any sin. This is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita. "The devotees of the Lord are released from all kinds of sins because they eat food that is first offered for sacrifice. Others, who prepare food for personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin." Krishna does not give permission to eat animals. Yes -- in the animal kingdom. But the civilized human being, the religious human being is not meant to kill and eat animals. If you stop killing animals and chant the holy name Christ, everything will be perfect."God has millions and millions of names, and because there is no difference between God's name and Himself, each one of these names has the same potency as God." Therefore even if you accept designations like Hindu, Christian or Mohammedan, if you simply chant the name of God found in your own scriptures, you will attain the spiritual platform. Human life is meant for self-realisation -- to learn how to love God. That is the actual beauty of man. Whether you discharge this duty as a Hindu, a Christian or a Mohammedan, it doesn't matter -- but do it?understanding God is not a question of intelligence but a question of humility. "The humble and meek own the kingdom of God.. The qualities of humbleness and meekness lead very quickly to spiritual realisation. In the Vedic scriptures it is said, "To those who have firm faith in God and the spiritual master, who is His representative, the meaning of the Vedic scriptures is revealed."Jesus said "Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask my Father in the same manner in which I ask Him, He will give it to you." Certainly Christ would accept praying in Krishna's name, as our technique has so much in common! First, let's look at Christ's character. He was not an advocate of violence of any sort. He was a preacher of peace and love. He had an aversion to cruelty. This was an integral part of his psyche. Therefore it does not make sense that he would want any of God's creatures, big or small, to be killed. So what really happened?

In the East there are little rolls that are made from a plant called the "Fish" plant or fish-weed. Matter of fact, there are some scholars who state that the Greek word for "fish- weed" has been mistranslated in this Biblical story as the word "fish". Actually, the fish-weed bread is still made to this day. For the Babylonians it was their chief food. For the natives of Japan, who try to abstain from meat, these soft submarine plants are considered a great dainty. The wives of the fishermen would dive into the water for these specialties. They are sun dried, mortar-ground, and baked into bread. It was considered to be a great delicacy in Christ's time. Unlike stinky fish :-), this fish-weed bread is what everyone ate.

However, even if we were to believe that Jesus did indeed eat fish, does this make it acceptable for us? One may wonder, why not? First, we need to remember that Jesus was preaching to illiterate fishermen. He had to relate to them for the sake of pushing on his preaching movement. When preaching, one must take into consideration time, place, circumstances, audience. To take this further, a great soul like this gets privileges that we do not. It is stated in the Vedas that one should not think they can imitate what the pure devotee can do, and Jesus most certainly is a pure devotee. One can follow his instructions, but not imitate.

And Jesus did instructed his disciples to become "fishers of men," meaning they should go out and preach God consciousness. "Eli, Eli, lamah shavahhtani." when Christ was on the cross, in the midst of this horrendous situation when he needed God the most, he lost his faith! Lost his connection too! And this is who we are suppose to count on saving US upon death? But time and research reveals the translation of this 'cry on the cross' to be inaccurate (thank goodness!).

Jesus spoke Aramaic. The Aramaic verb "shavahh," translates as, "to bring peace to," or "to glorify," or "to sooth." Whereas the verb "azav" means "to abandon," or "to forsake."

This makes much more sense, that such a great soul, pure devotee son of God, would be speaking out in glory of the Lord or the bringing of peace, etc., and not the loss of God! His faith never wavered.  Jesus said in his last supper I ,come into the world, that I may put away all blood offerings and the eating of the flesh of the beasts and the birds that are slain by men.. In the beginning, God gave to all, the fruits of the trees, and the seeds, and the herbs, for food; but those who loved themselves more than God, or their fellows, corrupted their ways, and brought diseases into their bodies, and filled the earth with lust and violence.. Not by shedding innocent blood, therefore, but by living a righteous life, shall ye find the peace of God. Ye call me the Christ of God and ye say well, for I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.. Walk ye in the Way, and ye shall find God. Seek ye the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free. Live in the Life, and ye shall see no death. All things are alive in God, and the Spirit of God filleth all things.

Keep ye the commandments. Love thy God with all thy heart, and love thy neighbour as thyself. On these hang all the law and the prophets. And the sum of the law is this—Do not ye unto others as ye would not that others should do unto you. Do ye unto others, as ye would that others should do unto you.

Blessed are they who keep this law, for God is manifested in all creatures. All creatures live in God, and God is hid in them.Lord krishna speaks of non violence (Ahimsa paramo Dharma).  in Bagavat gita. Time and again Christ was speaking and preaching Krishna conscious through out his  Avatar.  Blessed are those who understood Kristu alias Krisna.